TPM Cafe Blogs Cost Too Much To Operate?

 This angle was new to me…

Maybe I missed a post during the time leading up to the closing of the Talking Points Memo TPM Cafe blog system.

I don’t recall during that period that the excuse was about operating expenses. If anyone here recalls this as an issue, please correct me.

Plus, and this one is a real boot in the feathers, reading Josh’s reply below to my earlier email, he apparently didn’t/doesn’t think much about any info that was to be gleaned from all the different perspectives by all the different members of the blog.

I personally directed him (by using his email) to quite a few well researched info laden Cafe blogs during the years I was active.

Oh well . . .



  • Re: Attn Josh: Medicare Issue‏

4/22/11 Reply
Josh Marshall

Robert, Maybe we couldn’t afford running that part of the site anymore.  Did that occur to you?  Also email is always the path we’ve found most effective for pulling in reader input and tips.  So I don’t think having the reader blogs still opened would have been an issue one way or another.  Josh



Joshua at TPM Needs Everyone’s Help


I hope all is well around these parts…

I’ve been quite busy just paddling ’round.

But I thought this might be of interest here at OUAP.

The following is an email I sent to Josh today…

  • Attn Josh: Medicare Issue‏

11:08 AM
To Joshua Michah Marshall
Dear Josh,You’re extremely interested in hearingwhat people are saying about Medicare Phase-Out in townhall meetings across the USA?I guess if you hadn’t closed the threads in the Cafe you wouldn’t have to worry about this.

You could read all about it within the warm confines of your own site.

Your admirer from the far left coast.

Good luck.


Socialized Health Care and Mandated Health Insurance – 1798???


That DATE is NOT a typo…


The Congress of the United States passed the following law in 1798.



Apparently the framers did not looked at “mandatory health care”  in very much of a different light than that of the current crop of corporate lackeys slithering in the swamp of DC.

There is a very fine article here at Rick Unger’s Policy Page at Forbes that explains the law in detail…

Key words of Unger’s that stood out to me, “…those were the days when members of Congress still used their collective heads to solve problems – not create them.”


Two Words Say What Must Be Said

I’m almost speechless… But not quite . . .

After Saturday’s carnage in Tucson…

It’s with a heavy heart that I post this comment this early morn.

There are but two words that must be said loud and clear.

They must be repeated over and over and over.

Here is Keith Olberman’s remark…

We need to put the guns down. Just as importantly we need to put the gun metaphors away and permanently.

Left, right, middle – politicians and citizens – sane and insane. This morning in Arizona, this age in which this country would accept “targeting” of political opponents and putting bullseyes over their faces and of the dangerous blurring between political rallies and gun shows, ended.

This morning in Arizona, this time of the ever-escalating, borderline-ecstatic invocation of violence in fact or in fantasy in our political discourse, closed. It is essential tonight not to demand revenge, but to demand justice; to insist not upon payback against those politicians and commentators who have so irresponsibly brought us to this time of domestic terrorism, but to work to change the minds of them and their supporters – or if those minds tonight are too closed, or if those minds tonight are too unmoved, or if those minds tonight are too triumphant, to make sure by peaceful means that those politicians and commentators and supporters have no further place in our system of government.

If Sarah Palin, whose website put and today scrubbed bullseye targets on 20 Representatives including Gabby Giffords, does not repudiate her own part in amplifying violence and violent imagery in politics, she must be dismissed from politics – she must be repudiated by the members of her own party, and if they fail to do so, each one of them must be judged to have silently defended this tactic that today proved so awfully foretelling, and they must in turn be dismissed by the responsible members of their own party.

If Jesse Kelly, whose campaign against Congresswoman Giffords included an event in which he encouraged his supporters to join him firing machine guns, does not repudiate this, and does not admit that even if it was solely indirectly, or solely coincidentally, it contributed to the black cloud of violence that has envellopped our politics, he must be repudiated by Arizona’s Republican Party.

If Congressman Allen West, who during his successful campaign told his supporters that they should make his opponent afraid to come out of his home, does not repudiate those remarks and all other suggestions of violence and forced fear, he should be repudiated by his constituents and the Republican Congressional Caucus.

If Sharron Angle, who spoke of “Second Amendment solutions,” does not repudiate that remark and urge her supporters to think anew of the terrible reality of what her words implied, she must be repudiated by her supporters in Nevada.

If the Tea Party leaders who took out of context a Jefferson quote about blood and tyranny and the tree of liberty do not understand – do not understand tonight, now what that really means, and these leaders do not tell their followers to abhor violence and all threat of violence, then those Tea Party leaders must be repudiated by the Republican Party.

If Glenn Beck, who obsesses nearly as strangely as Mr. Loughner did about gold and debt and who wistfully joked about killing Michael Moore, and Bill O’Reilly, who blithely repeated “Tiller the Killer” until the phrase was burned into the minds of his viewers, do not begin their next broadcasts with solemn apologies for ever turning to the death-fantasies and the dreams of bloodlust, for ever having provided just the oxygen to those deep in madness to whom violence is an acceptable solution, then those commentators and the others must be repudiated by their viewers, and by all politicians, and by sponsors, and by the networks that employ them.

And if those of us considered to be “on the left” do not re-dedicate ourselves to our vigilance to eliminate all our own suggestions of violence – how ever inadvertent they might have been then we too deserve the repudiation of the more sober and peaceful of our politicians and our viewers and our networks.

Here, once, in a clumsy metaphor, I made such an unintended statement about the candidacy of then-Senator Clinton. It sounded as if it was a call to physical violence. It was wrong, then. It is even more wrong tonight. I apologize for it again, and I urge politicians and commentators and citizens of every political conviction to use my comment as a means to recognize the insidiousness of violent imagery, that if it can go so easily slip into the comments of one as opposed to violence as me, how easily, how pervasively, how disastrously can it slip into the already-violent or deranged mind? For tonight we stand at one of the clichéd crossroads of American history. Even if the alleged terrorist Jared Lee Loughner was merely shooting into a political crowd because he wanted to shoot into a political crowd, even if he somehow was unaware who was in the crowd, we have nevertheless for years been building up to a moment like this.

Assume the details are coincidence. The violence is not. The rhetoric has devolved and descended, past the ugly and past the threatening and past the fantastic and into the imminently murderous.

We will not return to the 1850s, when a pro-slavery Congressman nearly beat to death an anti-slavery Senator; when an anti-slavery madman cut to death with broadswords pro-slavery advocates.

We will not return to the 1960s, when with rationalizations of an insane desire for fame, or of hatred, or of political opposition, a President was assassinated and an ultra-Conservative would-be president was paralyzed, and a leader of peace was murdered on a balcony.

We will not.

Because tonight, what Mrs. Palin, and what Mr. Kelly, and what Congressman West, and what Ms. Angle, and what Mr. Beck, and what Mr. O’Reilly, and what you and I must understand, was that the man who fired today did not fire at a Democratic Congresswoman and her supporters. He was not just a mad-man incited by a thousand daily temptations by slightly less-mad-men to do things they would not rationally condone.

He fired today into our liberty and our rights to live and to agree or disagree in safety and in freedom from fear that our support or opposition will cost us our lives or our health or our sense of safety. The bullseye might just as well have been on Mrs. Palin, or Mr. Kelly, or you, or me. The wrong, the horror, would have been – could still be just as real and just as unacceptable.

At a time of such urgency and impact, we as Americans – conservative or liberal – should pour our hearts and souls into politics. We should not – none of us, not Gabby Giffords and not any Conservative – ever have to pour our blood. And every politician and commentator who hints otherwise, or worse still stays silent now, should have no place in our political system, and should be denied that place, not by violence, but by being shunned and ignored.

It is a simple pledge, it is to the point, and it is essential that every American politician and commentator and activist and partisan take it and take it now, I say it first, and freely: Violence, or the threat of violence, has no place in our Democracy, and I apologize for and repudiate any act or any thing in my past that may have even inadvertently encouraged violence.

Because for whatever else each of us may be, we all are Americans.

This has been a dark day in our history…

And a much much darker day for the friends and family of this 9 year old.

Christine Taylor Greene

My heart weeps…



** Please leave a comment if it so moves you…

The Winter Blast From the West to the East…

Howdy friends and neighbors . . .


A wee bit of music to listen to from my musical collaborator of 45 years, Peter Klimes.

Hi Sierra (right click to open in new tab, hit start and return to reading…)

We have all been inundated on the news by the after effects of the snowstorms that spread across the east coast. All that moisture developed out over the Pacific, out past the Hawaiian Islands and came roaring through Southern California starting last Friday and dumped 7 inches of rain in three days here at our abode. To us that was a real deluge. Out here we refer to this type of storm system as the Pineapple Express.

The low front, carrying a tremendous amount of moisture then proceeded east across Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, the panhandle of Texas and Oklahoma. It continued on through parts of Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and then it brought snow to Georgia for Christmas day before making an abrupt turn to the north up the eastern seaboard and blanketing everything in it way…

Gee … It must winter.

And what’s my point? Over at the old stomping grounds our favorite host Josh Marshall even made a deal about it yesterday morning. He even posted a couple of photos and asked for folks to “Send us your pictures of the snow in your neck of the woods.”

Here’s his photos:

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And being the sort that never passes up an invite, here is the photo I sent Josh of the snow in our neck of the woods:

Hola Josh…

From OldenGoldenDecoy ~OGD~ Hot smile

I wish you and yours the brightest, healthiest, happiest New Year.



And I wish all you here the same … the brightest, healthiest, happiest New Year.



Reparations: The Not So Subtle Code Word for … “Them Thar Nigras”

This Elmer can kiss my Mulatto butt cheeks . . .

After reading this article in the The Iowa Independent:

I found the following comment quite apropos in the comment thread from some poster named
Red River Rover.

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Individual State’s Health Innovation and GOP Federalism


Howdy all …

I take it that everyone enjoyed a peaceful if not overly indulgent Thanksgiving week with friends and family.  Turkey was NOT on the Duck’s platter.

Here’s a little news on the Affordable Healthcare Act.

From a blog by David Weigle in, December 1, 2010

Democrats to GOP: Bring on the Federalism!

Speaking to reporters today, incoming Oregon Gov. John Kitzhaber said he was hopeful about the incoming GOP-run House of Representatives in one way. If they “put their money where their mouth is,” and give more flexibility to the states, they’ll make his job easier.

The context: the Affordable Care Act included language, put there by Kitzhaber’s senator, Ron Wyden, which allows states to get waivers and duck the federal mandate to buy health insurance. I followed up and asked specifically if the incoming governors were looking for waivers, and they were. Both Kitzhaber and incoming Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin said they had met today with Donald Berwick and were looking for waivers that would allow them to pursue their own progressive health insurance reforms. Shumlin said that he ran on a promise to bring single-payer health care to Vermont; that’s what he was seeking.

While the distinguished Senator Ron Wyden, Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin, and incoming Oregon Gov. John Kitzhaber are leading the charge on bringing about allowing the Innovative States section of ACA to begin sooner, on Election Day California had already received approval for an initial waiver from HHS for the state’s Medicaid system re-alignment receiving $10 billion in federal Medicaid money to extend coverage to some 500,000 people.

In addition to the above, back in September, California had already re-aligned state law for the very thing that Wyden, Shumlin and Kitzhaber are pressing for… And don’t overlook the fact that that guy from Massachusetts in the pick-up truck is a co-sponsor for the Wyden deal. Here’s Wyden’s Official Press Release:

Wyden and Brown Bill Allows States to Create Own Plans Earlier

Can anyone say, Public Option on a state by state level without mandating coverage?

And on another angle, there is also a waiver section in the ACA that can allow for state’s to combine into regional plans, thereby broadening the number of those seeking coverage and in turn bring about more leverage for lower premium policies in the exchanges.

That is all . . .




Obama Policy Lost in the Political Bickering

Just in case recent events have clouded your brain . . .

Policy policy policy policy . . .


  • The President signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which has been responsible for about 3 million American jobs and brought the economy back from the brink of another depression.
  • The President signed Wall Street Reform, the most sweeping reforms since the Great Depression, to hold Wall Street accountable, put an end to bailouts and “too big to fail,” and enforce the strongest consumer protections in history.
  • The President signed the Small Business Jobs Act providing  tax breaks and better access to credit for millions of small businesses.
  • The President signed the HIRE Act providing a payroll tax credit for companies that hire employees who have been looking for work for 60 days or more.  Millions of workers have been hired through this process already.
  • The President launched the National Export Initiative with a goal of doubling exports and supporting several million new jobs over five years. 
  • The President announced the “Making Home Affordable” home refinancing plan.
  • The President launched a $15 billion plan to boost lending to small businesses.
  • President Obama played a lead role in G-20 Summit that produced a $1.1 trillion deal to combat the global financial crisis.
  • The President signed the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act which gives the federal government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud, from lending to the financial system, and creates a bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission to investigate the financial practices that brought us to this point.
  • The President signed the Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, expanding on the Making Home Affordable Program to help millions of Americans avoid preventable foreclosures, providing $2.2 billion to help combat homelessness , and helping to stabilize the housing market for everybody.
  • The President signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure (CARD) Act to protect Americans from unfair and deceptive credit card practices.

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